c Rhuthun / Ruthin: Never say Never...

Sunday, November 13, 2011

Never say Never...

… or Tesco Five Years on (4—final)…
… or How I Remember Counting Things for this Blog…
… or Saying it Like it Is…
… or Rhuthun's Perfect Storm

As I walked down from the Square on Saturday afternoon, I pondered why I saw just two other shoppers and three parked cars on lower Well Street. Afterwards, I wandered over to Tesco. Passing B&M, there were cars queuing on Station Road trying to get a space in the otherwise crammed parking ground. At Tesco, there were only 28 free spaces (two thanks to poorly parked cars) and within, there were more than 160 shoppers with others coming & going.

And they say that Tesco has no effect on town centres.

That said, there were the usual town centre shops that had closed on Saturday afternoon. Possibly, therefore, a case of chicken & egg. No point in opening because the town is quiet; or the town is empty so there's no point in opening. Shut were:
  • The laundry & Ruthin IT Centre at the junction of Mwrog Street & Clwyd Street;

  • Castle Park Café, Goble's, Finns (though adjoining J Khan's takeaway pizzeria was open);

  • Fineline, Eagle's Bakery, the new house clearance shop at the junction of Clwyd Street & Upper Clwyd Street;

  • Fairie Pirates/Hardly Nickels, Alton Murphy, & Mia Florists;

  • St Kentigern, Crown House, Santander, Dal Chini, First House, the Well Street Clinic, Norma Elizabeth, the Health Food Shop, W & G Jones café and butcher and the Garment Spa; and

  • All the health & beauty emporia and hairdressers bar one for women and one for men.
To balance things up a little, it's appropriate now to make mention of two recently opened town centre shops. One is in the small unit next to Harris Toys (formerly Y Shop), selling an attractively laid out assortment of quality-looking antiques. The same unit's been open as such before, 12 months ago. This was open on Saturday afternoon. The other's the aforesaid house clearance shop, fittingly called Siop Ail-law, in the former Robbin's/Studio 21 further up Clwyd Street.

But the "Saturday Effect" is not just confined to Rhuthun/Ruthin. By counting things, my own summer research into mid-Wales market towns indicated that Saturday afternoons are completely flat. Yet, there will be many readers who will recall those buoyant Saturday afternoons of the 1960s and 1970s who will know how different things were.

Where do people shop on Saturday afternoons these days? One answer, as above, is Tesco. Another is large cities like Lerpwl/Liverpool. I wasn't in Lerpwl on Saturday afternoon but I did go there last week. It was a cultural rather than shopping visit. Rest assured, I bought nothing other than two magazines and a specialist newspaper that are unavailable in Rhuthun. Yes, I could order them here and, yes, fair play, the magazine stock in Castle Bell newsagents has improved considerably in recent months such that it is now better than Tesco's (as it should be) or Bridge Services (sadly no longer renowned for its rich variety of titles).

My guess is that Lerpwl would've been crowded. If people aren't attracted away from small towns to supermarkets or edge-of-town retail parks, they gravitate to shopping areas such as Liverpool ONE, a kind of Eagles' Meadow on steroids. There was not one empty unit in either Liverpool ONE or the adjacent city centre proper. You had to get to the far extremities such as Ranelagh or Renshaw Streets to find vacancies: the huge Lewis store (not to be confused with the John Lewis Partnership) that closed in 2010 remains unoccupied. It finds itself at the wrong end of town from Liverpool ONE. Empty are the former Rapid Hardware buildings that moved to the old John Lewis building when John Lewis went to L1.

Yet, even along Bold Street, that attractive time warp of smaller, indie shops, that beacon of trade that like Rhuthun bucks the homogeneity of our high streets, there's now a Tesco Express at the top. Even here.

In the comment in this week's Denbighshire Free Press, the editor wonders what might become of Llangollen should the recently submitted supermarket planning permission be granted. He compares Llangollen's chances of survival to post-Tesco Rhuthun. Llangollen is somewhat different to Rhuthun but comparison is still valid. Interestingly, the editor wonders whether Rhuthun's fate actually results from Tesco or from the current depression. He remains undecided.

He could do worse than visit this blogsite for, right from day one, its very reason was to measure whether Tesco had an appreciable effect on the town. We've monitored the oscillations within the town centre ever since. Things were OK before Tesco then they dipped. There followed a short-lived blossoming before things dipped again.

To coincide with Tesco's fifth anniversary, we've published the results of our own survey into the benefits and disbenefits of Tesco Rhuthun. We asked blog readers some simple questions.
  • One was whether Tesco affected the town unfavourably. More than half of all respondents felt that it did. A third felt it didn't.

  • We also know from respondents that two thirds felt that there were fewer people in town, following Tesco.

  • And we found out that two thirds of respondents visit Tesco regularly. Fewer than half visit the town centre with the same regularity.
The result of Tesco has been a less busy town. If you have pounded the streets of Rhuthun as long as I, you will *know* this is a fact. But it isn't just my view. Ask traders and, to a person, they will agree. And not just traders. The county council's planning committee recognised this in 2007 when it refused Tesco's expansion plans (though these were subsequently overturned by a Caerdydd planning inspector). At the time, Councillor Morfudd Jones stated, "Smaller businesses in Rhuthun are withering. If you go from shop to shop, the story is the same. I think we in Rhuthun can see what a shop like [Tesco's] can do to small businesses in the town."

A councillor now no longer serving said, "All businesses with the exception of two have reported a downturn of 15 to 20 per cent. Two businesses reported a massive drop in footfall of 75 per cent".

What Tesco has done, and Lo-cost before it, is reduce the number of convenience shops in town. There was suddenly less of a reason to go into town regularly to buy everyday convenience goods. Fewer convenience stores have a consequent effect on other shops. We start to see a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In terms of convenience shopping, there's now just one newsagent in town. There are only two butchers. Fruit & veg is absent altogether, aside from a selection at one of the butchers (Reebee's fruit & veg side was an early post-Tesco casualty). You'll find fast moving consumer goods only in both chemists and one price-point variety retailer (Popeye, actually established post-Tesco and even post-B&M).

But the fortunes of high street Wales aren't solely dependent upon whether it has a Tesco breathing down its neck. That's just one element in a perfect storm that also includes:
  • Internet trading, pretty much an essential if you want to buy music these days, and it's now possible to buy convenience supermarket-style shopping even from Amazon (though it's yet to turn a profit).

  • We've already mentioned out-of-town retailing. This is having such an effect on the typical British high street that multiples are closing shops when their leases fall due, in favour of malls and retail parks. Another self-fulfilling spiral. It's got to the point where landlords are actually offering retailers their premises rent-free to avoid an empty unit that still requires business rates.
It is perhaps as well that the only "mult" (as the sector is often referred to) in Rhuthun town centre is Boot's the Chemist. There's little that can move away out-of-town, though a number of independents have, to Lôn Parcwr, but still trading in Rhuthun (e.g. Lewis Electrics, Uptown Furnishing), noting that Ruthin Décor has recently moved the other way.

Yet, there are still considerable vacancies within the town centre. Rhuthun nevertheless compares to the high street vacancy rate in the UK. The current average high street sees a 14 per cent vacancy rate. In November 2011, Rhuthun's is currently 13 per cent. Because a number of vacant units are very prominent—on the Square, for example—it appears worse than perhaps it is. Looking at British trends, it's sad to say that we can expect this number to go only in one direction. At the coming of Tesco, the vacancy rate was eight per cent. Adjusting this for premises then available for use but now converted to residential and therefore out of scope and the adjusted vacancy rate was equivalent to just six per cent.

It's to everyone's credit that there remains a good mass of trading units. To me, this is a paradox. Compare Rhuthun to Rhuddlan. The towns are broadly the same size. Rhuddlan is closer to a larger town and very close to a retail park and these are major differences. Rhuddlan supports 35 shops and businesses, aside from its garage. This has changed little since the Rhuddlan retail park. There remain a couple of vacancies. Adjusting the figure for Rhuthun's slightly higher population and the number of shops at Rhuddlan would be at 41.

Rhuthun currently supports 109 open trading units, three times the number in Rhuddlan. This is aside from supermarkets, the fringe-of-town large price-point variety retailer (B&M), garages, banks and offices. That number has decreased in the last 30 years, as some premises have converted to residential use, including some quite recently. Anyway, that's a difference of 74 open units (or 68, when adjusted). Why the larger number in Rhuthun?

This, perhaps, is a legacy of Rhuthun overtrading on the back of a visitor economy that is still visible. You still see visitors wandering the streets of Rhuthun and long may that continue. Future petrol price increases are unlikely to help but even in the 1980s, the tourist market started to fall. Were a town of such architectural significance to be situated in the south of England, it would no doubt be booming. It's as well that we aren't in the vicinity of the south but the effect of where we are can be difficult. And there are some further awkward questions: where, for example, have all the Americans gone? They tend to stick with their favorites (sic) and will stray only as far from Chester along the A55 to Conwy & Caernarfon Castles. And what about the touring coaches? The two are linked. We now get but one summer coach party per week and its sole contribution to the local economy is a spin around the Square. It doesn't even stop any more. We need to add this to the aforementioned perfect storm facing Rhuthun.

Turnover in traders post-Tesco is most marked. Credit where it's due for people having a go but, on past form, trading life isn't easy. As an example, of the 37 new shops that filled vacancies in the first two years of Tesco trading, 27 have closed. We also bade farewell to a further 19 shops in this period. Now, a large number of these premises are recycled into other ventures (sometimes more than once) but the scale and pace must be down to something.

And that pace of change will continue. Dominating the Square and the approach it from Clwyd Street at the moment is a clad Castle Hotel that early in 2012 will become a Wetherspoon's. Our analysis of Yr Wyddgrug/Mold's Wetherspoon's seems to indicate that other pubs are somewhat struggling in the face of JDW.

JD's is the pub equivalent to what the retail trade calls a "category killer". They specialise in cheap drinks and food and in so doing "kill" their competitors to the point where they can no longer trade sustainably. In Rhuthun's case, the competitors are all effectively small businesses. Tied they may be but they are locally run.

But, before we write off Rhuthun, let's not forget that JDW might attract more people and a fresh market back into the town centre. Let's hope so as this may help the town as the depression moves into a slump. The car that takes people away from Rhuthun to work and to shop may yet bring visitors back in, who wish to sample Wetherspoon's. This is no soulless though these days popular edge-of-town Beefeater new-build but a town centre investment.

Are we now reaping the bitter harvest of a society that promotes the unfettered use of the motor car? A car for everyman & woman has promoted consumerism and a loss of local distinctiveness. An otherwise helpful tool now actually dominates our lives. It has transformed Rhuthun into a dormitory town where the link between where we live and where work, shop and play is forever broken. The choice the car brings also causes collateral damage on dying UK high streets and we must add this to the perfect storm affecting Rhuthun and other small market towns.

There are many things that threaten small market towns and we've highlighted some of them here. Some of them are nebulous. One thing that isn't is the effect of Tesco on the town. I hope that through this blog and in this posting this article, I've managed to demonstrate that, post-Tesco, the face of Rhuthun's changed considerably. Some may welcome the change, others not. But change there has been. You can't easily buck the trned of modern capitalism.
  • Tesco seems responsible for a hitherto unimaginable churn in businesses in the town centre.

  • There's been an increase in empty units, post-Tesco, from eight to 13 per cent. Some of this will be due to factors other than Tesco but post-Tesco footfall decline is a major factor.

  • Traders note a reduction in town centre footfall, five years later and also immediately post-Tesco.

  • There are markedly fewer convenience shops in the town centre, in a trend that started after Lo-cost but was accelerated post-Tesco.

  • Residents now shop regularly at Tesco, a store busy when the town isn't.

  • If the blog readers' survey is representative of Rhuthun as a whole, fewer people go into town and fewer people feel that Tesco has made a positive impact on the town than feel the opposite.
This post may be slightly controversial but all it does is say it like it is, from as near a scientific analysis as my meagre resources permit. I'm no stranger to controversy. Regular readers may recall:
  • The December 2006 storm where a group of businesses who were trying (unsuccessfully as it turns out) to promote a winter version of Top of Town said in a newspaper, "It’s precisely that type of reporting which [is]… a large part of the problem. Pessimism is our biggest enemy…" We refuted that within hours of it being said.

  • Then there was the issue of the butcher. Ooops.

  • Remember the straightforward post on council tax that got caught up in all sorts of reader comments that resulted in the mayor trying to straighten things out but (in my view) just complicated matters. The post and its comments were (probably thankfully) gobbled up by Blogger but few seemed to believe it, seeing a conspiracy.

  • Then there was the post in praise of the quality of Ysgol Brynhyfryd sixth form that no one seemed to agree with, in spite of the evidence.

  • And how dare I blame sixth formers for causing parking issues on streets near the school when it was obviously everyone else's fault.


  • More recently, there was the whole Faerie Pirates/Hardly Nickels purple shop thing.

  • Remember the inappropriate comments about the head of Ruthin School and sometimes offensive comments about one of your fellow commenters & his wife? It was this that started the first bout of more prolonged comment moderation. Moderation's been on and off ever since.
Indeed, moderation is on at the moment. It's the small minority of idiotic comments that, for me, more than anything else, spoil the enjoyment of this blog. It's raison d'être was the effect of Tesco on the town and, by now, it's job is done. But it's the inappropriate comments that have killed this blog, in two ways:
  • It means the blog is less spontaneous. People have to wait for moderation. And this means a comment on a comment may take 24 hours. It places additional pressure on the blog author in continually monitoring the site for comments, especially in trying to decide what is and might not be appropriate. It's comforting to know that a large proportion of the readership trust my decisions but that doesn't make it any easier for me and it really takes the joy away from running the blog.

  • It also means that, in spite of a growing readership, fewer people now bother to comment when compared to the halcyon days before the most recent moderation.
And though the readership continues to grow, as this graph & trend line demonstrate, I feel that it's time to say Au Revoir. After all, we've answered the question on Tesco. And we won the Welsh Blog Awards 2011 in the Best Community Blog category. Quite an honour, that. I've also written over 257,000 words in almost 1,000 posts, enough for three average sized books.

But please remember that the well-worn phrase "never say never" applies. Who knows what might happen in the future. The dip in the graph, for example, coincides with a lengthy period in 2009 when this blog fell silent. When we spoke again, we recovered. But it's time to switch off the laptop for now. If you want to know whether we may speak again, your best avenue is to add this blog into an aggregator capable of reading RSS or Atom feeds (e.g. Feedburner, Google Reader plus those integrated into major web browsers). This will automatically tell you when and if we post again.

The written comments during the recent autumn 2011 Rhuthun Blog survey were heart-warming to read and I thank everyone who commented positively. At this point, I should also like to thank every reader, every commenter, and anyone who has suggested something to write about. It's *you* who are the blog, it's your community. It isn't mine, other than the hard work in thumping away at the keyboard to get things flowing. May I again make special mention of the Blog Photographer for help in illustrating many posts. The Photographer wishes to remain as anonymous as do I.

One survey comment of note was this:
"The writer of the blog is pro-Welsh and has an undertone of racism towards incomers moving into the area. This is obvious in the sly comments made from time to time. He does not want Ruthin to change or to slowly die and yet he is happy to criticise or comment on any forward thinking business that chooses to open and inject new life into the town.

"As a business owner, I fear for having a post placed on the blog about my business without my consent and subsequently be publicly gossiped about in the comments section. The blog is good in one way, used incorrectly by the blog readers/commentators it is a poisonous tool that is contributing to the death of the town."
I am not sure how one reader could have gotten things so wrong but if this is the view of the trading community as a whole, I dare not go on. Why would I wish to destroy the town I love?

Here, then, is to Rhuthun's future. Here's to getting more people to venture from the Craft Centre to the town centre; here's to a flourishing independent shop sector as a real antidote to the homogenised & regimented high streets & retail parks that surround us; here's to our secondary school moving from strength to strength; to welcoming tourists aplenty;and here's to each and every member of our community who works hard for the town. I certainly salute you all, thank you for your support and hope that we might meet again in the virtual community that is the Rhuthun/Ruthin Blog.

Non Liquet

73 Comments:

Anonymous Galadriel said...

You have thought long and hard about this Non so I won't try to change your mind. I will miss you, your team and the regulars! Hasta la vista, baby!!! ;)

14 November, 2011 10:19  
Anonymous Bob Costain aka Marketman said...

In the words of the late great Douglas Adams - "Goodbye (Non) and thanks for all the fish...."
....until we meet again.

14 November, 2011 19:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A sad day for Ruthin. As I suspected the post a little while back was the suicide note I feared. If you are continuing to the extent of releasing these comments Non thank you and au revoir (I hope).

14 November, 2011 20:02  
Anonymous christanzaro said...

Dear Non
That was a great last post, I feel the circle you began to draw as you started this blog is now complete. Tesco has establised itself and the worlds a fast changing place. The blog was sometimes brilliant, sometimes not so good but it was never boring and for that you deserve to be congratulated.
Next year with World War Three in the Middle East and a mother of all economic tsunami's heading our way, things may begin to change a little towards how they used to be with more locally sourced and retailed produce. We'll have to wait and see.
Methinks Tesco at the moment is feeling the pinch too because just as Co-op as loads of reductions on fresh foods so it appears does Tesco, so they're not doing quite as well as they did a few months ago neither. Anyway Au Revoir Non. You will be missed.

14 November, 2011 21:15  
Anonymous :-( said...

Biti biti garw :-( I know that keeping a blog going is not as easy as one thinks... I started a family one, and while it went well - and it still exists - if people don't participate then frankly it gets to be a burden. HOWEVER... gutted that you're finishing, but hats off to you for such an informative blog for the past few years. Oddly enough, this is where I felt connected to the town and its going ons. I do what I can to support the town, but being a working mother,with one child with special needs, my out-of-hours activities are limited - and not by choice. Rhuthun is a fabulous town, and is a joy to live in. What a shame that my link to community life is coming to an end, but fair play to you Non Liquet. You have given me an opportunity to keep involved and engaged in Rhuthun life. You have no idea how much I shall miss you. Diolch o galon. :-( xx

14 November, 2011 21:56  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

Maybe someone else could take over where you have left off Non & a shame for everyone to miss out on all the good work that you have done getting the whole town together.
I believe the blog moved on from Tesco a long time ago & got people talking about more important day to day things.
Take care Non.

14 November, 2011 22:32  
Anonymous gina tonick said...

Ahh well! Denne ti Non! Seibiant! Diolch am y blog, a'r adroddiade difyr tros y blynydde.
The urchins will miss you Non, and so will I.

14 November, 2011 22:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the pleasure I have had reading this blog over the years, I thank you Non.

" If my ship sails out of sight, it's not an ending, just the river bending".............

14 November, 2011 23:33  
Anonymous Sue R said...

I will miss catching up on Ruthin news, this blog has certainly been a link for all ex pats. So Thank You Non for the amazing and massive job you have been doing all these years, you only have to read the comments to realise how your readers feel.I hope someone else will pick up where you left off. It means not only farewell to you Non, but to my favourite poster Gina Tonick I will miss your wit as well as Songsmith, Galadriel etc.Once again Diolch Yn Fawr.

15 November, 2011 02:59  
Anonymous Songsmith said...

It is with great sadness that I write my last comment on the Rhuthun Blog.
Thank you Non for a great few years of debate and interest on the topic of our beautiful town.
I will miss the fellow bloggers, and the banter we have enjoyed, without even knowing eachothers true identity, although possible that we are friends, neighbours or even family.
I will see Christanzaro regularly, and hope that my dear Gina Tonic will eventually pay for a round of drinks.
Once again, thank you Non, until we meet again. Diolch yn fawr iawn.

15 November, 2011 06:57  
Anonymous Pat (not my real name) said...

Hi Non. Could you possibly reconsider please? Perhaps once a week is all it needs. I have been reading this since its startr and must be one of the first ever to comment. It's been one amazing journey over the past 8 years so thank you so much.

15 November, 2011 07:49  
Anonymous Martini said...

Chwarae teg! I'm sure this decision has not been an easy one (I would imagine that you will suffer withdrawal symptoms as well as the rest of us). I think your current comment on the town was spot on and we can only hope and pray that those shop keepers who are still with us will manage to ride the storm!

I haven't always agreed with you - but then I suppose that is the whole point of a blog, to get people to debate and that you most certainly did.

All the best to you Non! As you say "never say never" so we may meet again!

15 November, 2011 09:31  
Anonymous Pearly said...

So disappointed! I will miss this blog so much. What a shame.

16 November, 2011 00:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gutted! I feel Ruthin is a town in decline, but this blog helped to keep it alive. Please reconsider Non!

16 November, 2011 09:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Indeed, moderation is on at the moment. It's the small minority of idiotic comments that, for me, more than anything else, spoil the enjoyment of this blog.
."
BUT
"I've also written over 257,000 words in almost 1,000 posts, enough for three average sized books."

This was much better and more important than three books worth. We will all need you when JDW opens.Your spread of intriguing non de plume supporters will be devastated.Come on.
Take no notice of the idiots...a delight..a lifeline...a pleasure.
Please reconsider.
David on a bible black night.x

16 November, 2011 21:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Indeed, moderation is on at the moment. It's the small minority of idiotic comments that, for me, more than anything else, spoil the enjoyment of this blog.
."
BUT
"I've also written over 257,000 words in almost 1,000 posts, enough for three average sized books."

This was much better and more important than three books worth. We will all need you when JDW opens.Your spread of intriguing non de plume supporters will be devastated.Come on.
Take no notice of the idiots...a delight..a lifeline...a pleasure.
Please reconsider.
David on a bible black night.x

16 November, 2011 21:46  
Anonymous J said...

It's a rather long post this, isn't it? I read it on Monday, got half way through, the phone range and I read no more of it. It's only today that I went to the Comments and I discovered how significant this post was. I read it twice and am still in shock. I am sorry to see you go Non L. You've been part of my family's life for several years, like a neighbour. May be you actually ARE a neighbour! I never commented on here before but I still enjoyed your posts (and some of other peoples comments too). Ruthin will miss you. Please come back! Never say never, remember.
J

16 November, 2011 22:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So sorry to see you go - I and many others will miss your blog. Moderation is necessary - don't feel guilty about introducing it - it's a sad fact of life.

Hope you may return one day. In the meantime have a great retirement.

Songsmith and I will share a drink and discuss your identity.

I will now admit that I even approached a man in Tesco car park and told him I knew you were him.

It wasn't !

I will miss the comments, most of which I loved to read.

Why don't we organise a fans of Ruthin blog farewell party to boost trade in one of our local hostelries.

But we will have to wear a red rose so that we know who we are!

You could attend and reveal yourself, so to speak !

Diolch yn fawr iawn

MOELHUAL

16 November, 2011 22:53  
Anonymous Songsmith said...

What a great idea Moelhaul.
A reveal evening where we all get to meet eachother. I'm game,

17 November, 2011 18:50  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

Anybody wishing to air their views & keep up with the wind farm debate there is a public meeting in Clawdd on 22nd Nov at 7.45pm.
Sorry to throw that one in Non but needs must sometimes & when you get the opportunity you should always grasp it as it will affect everyone.

17 November, 2011 19:32  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

Another reason why there needs to be a blog kept up & running so as to keep people informed of things such as the wind farm situation & the like.

17 November, 2011 19:36  
Anonymous Non Liquet said...

Hello everyone and many thanks indeed for all your comments and emails.

First of all, has anyone noticed the roadworks that started this evening, over several consecutive nights at the Station Yard roundabout (the so-called Briec roundabout). Each entrance to the roundabout is traffic light controlled. Better overnight than during the day. I see that they are laying that pinky-orangey anti-slip surfacing at the moment, each side of the Craft Centre pedestrian crossing.

Sitting here in front of a largely blank computer seems very strange and I miss the Rhuthun/Ruthin Blog every bit as much as those who have kindly commented. I don't wish to trivialise matters when I say it's akin to something like a bereavement, but that's how it feels. I have nevertheless been enjoying lingering in bed just that little bit longer in the mornings : )

Moelhaul, I can safely say that it wasn't me in Tesco. You may not realise it but I try to avoid you where possible these days for fear that you might actually realise who I am. As a general point, when I hear people in town talk about the Blog, I try to look as natural as possible but I don't think it really works.

To the commenter with the child who has additional needs, I felt that your comment was incredibly moving.

This Anonymous comment counters the view in the main blog post nicely: " I feel Ruthin is a town in decline, but this blog helped to keep it alive. Please reconsider Non!"

To all others, you make me realise how difficult this decision is and how indecisive I really am!

And yes, with Wetherspoon's and those wind turbines, there's still plenty of action in Rhuthun!

Non

17 November, 2011 21:15  
Anonymous gina tonick said...

Perhaps Non could pass the blog on to an IT wizard blogmeister. He could then become Anonymous personified, become a Town Councillor and do all his shopping at Aldi, Mold. Alas poor Non - what will he do with time hanging so heavy on his now idle hands. I think this blog will reawaken in 6 months time - eternity's a very very long time to do nothing!

17 November, 2011 21:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have just read your comment non, I can't sleep. My wife thinks she knows who you are, first class she says. I don't agree but really puzzled now. Anyway, me, Songsmith and Christanzaro will toast your good health and try and work out who you are. MOELHUAL

18 November, 2011 00:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NON - BEEN TRYING TO WORK OUT WHO IS AVOIDING ME - BUT THERE ARE SO MANY !!

18 November, 2011 00:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indecisiviness is never good Non, but in this instance, its absolutely fabulous!! Please come back! As for avoiding Moelhaul in tesco.....steer your trolley away from the alcohol aisle and you should safe ;) (friend of songsmith)

18 November, 2011 00:23  
Anonymous Galadriel said...

Remember Non….even the smallest person can change the course of the future!!!!

Scooby is right the Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true.
As my favourite hero would say…..”Hold your ground! Hold your ground! Sons of Rhuthun. My brothers and sisters. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! A day may come, when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of Fellowship, but it is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you, stand, men and women of Rhuthun!"

This is our most desperate hour, help us Non you’re our only hope!

18 November, 2011 06:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As someone who works outside Ruthin but lives in the town i rely on this blog to keep me up to date with the goings on, please reconsider stopping it, there is so much more to comment on

19 November, 2011 07:49  
Anonymous christanzaro said...

Non
Ruthin is a hive of changing scenes. The Clwyd Gate has closed again,pub closures are endemic and I fear the worst is yet to come. Also the by-pass that was to go through the former Aibees shop and the neighbouring properties and lead down to the new by-pass roundabout has I think been postponed for good because I heard said properties have been bought for sheltered housing, after being empty all these years too. Also furthering my earlier post, there is certainly a footfall drop in Tesco, so they must be suffering as well. We live in strange times indeed what with tarmac workmen doing all night shifts and roads everywhere closed off for maintenance and then look at people around you, there's a "Look of the Seventies" appearing in their facial expressions, I think deep down us British are enjoying the goings on in Europe, It's a group batten down the hatches and get ready for the power cuts sort of mentality. I'm starting to enjoy these times!

19 November, 2011 22:36  
Blogger RUTHINFORWARD said...

Lantern Procession, 02 December · 18:00 - 21:00, Ruthin Town Square - FREE EVENT
Lantern procession along with Carol service, Christmas Market,Ysgol Pen Barras and lots lots more.

If anyone would like a stall at this event selling Christmas related products or gifts please contact Ron Bell.

Due to popular demand Ruthin Forward have added a Drop In lantern making workshop for the general public.Saturday November 26th, 10-2 at Ruthin Youth Club. Admission is free , completed lanterns can be purchased for just £2 all ages welcome...
Coming soon a bit of fun for the Christmas holidays, a round Ruthin "Spot the Odd" item in the participating shop windows quiz - back by popular demmand, run in Parallel with a classic "Gwyn Williams Town Pic" quiz for the adults.Entry forms from Cherry Bomb and Reebees from the 2 Dec. Organiser Ron Bell.
"In 2014 100 years after the start of war, Ruthin Forward intend to sympathetically commerate the local 101 Ruthin - cenotaph named soldiers who gave their lives in the First World War http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/northeast/sites/denbighshire/pages/war.shtml

20 November, 2011 05:54  
Blogger RUTHINFORWARD said...

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20 November, 2011 13:00  
Blogger RUTHINFORWARD said...

Come on Non Liquet get posting, please ! there is work to be done.

20 November, 2011 17:36  
Blogger RUTHINFORWARD said...

If you know of any wheelchair users that would like to join in with our lantern procession in Ruthin on the 2 DEC 5.30pm we have a limited ammount of blue led special "wands" to fit to the chairs as well as a limited quantity of small hand held lanterns, please contact by email mentioning Blue Wands. jeff.brimble@onetel.com

21 November, 2011 07:16  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064054/Prince-Philip-blasts-useless-wind-farms-Lord-Lawson-backs-attack-wind-power.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Prince Philip blasts wind turbines as useless.

21 November, 2011 20:36  
Anonymous gina tonick said...

Scooby! What does 90+ year old Phill the Greek know about wind turbines? Last thing you need is a racist royal freeloader randomly mouthing off about things that he knows zilch about. I wouldn't want to be in the same dug-out as him when he starts blasting. And why is a suposedly 'neutral' father of the next king twittering on about political subjects? Shouldn't he just keep his own opinions to himself and just enjoy his vast wealth: provided for by tax-payers and 800 years of conquest?
Bahh - he'll be contributing to this blog next ... thank God Non's giving up so that Phill can't rebutt me.

21 November, 2011 23:40  
Anonymous Galadriel said...

The energy wind turbines produce costs on average three times more than that produced by power stations. So as more of our power comes from wind farms expect our bills to increase dramatically! The government are doing a good job keeping this quiet! The general public think wind is free and therefore will be cheap! Oh how wrong they are! Wind turbines will throw more and more of us into fuel poverty!

22 November, 2011 05:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When was Prince Philip an expert on wind farms?

22 November, 2011 10:34  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you know Nick Clegg's wife Miriam has a lucrative job with a major Spanish wind farm firm; Acciona. Gaining contracts in Britain as her husband’s party is committed to building 15,000 more large wind turbines. David Cameron’s father in law is making a fortune from the wind turbine industry. Is it possible that we have a conflict of interests here??? Why are our local politicians so quiet on this subject at the moment? Could it be political suicide to mount any opposition to wind turbines???

22 November, 2011 15:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rithin Tesco 1 Ruthin Blog 0

23 November, 2011 07:52  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

Don't shoot the messenger.

23 November, 2011 09:32  
Anonymous Mountbatten said...

I'll have you know that I am an expert on producing energy from expending very little. I've had 58 years of total inertia.

χαιρετισμοί,

Philip

23 November, 2011 11:34  
Anonymous Martini said...

Anon (22nd Nov 15:25). Now don't be silly! You know that the rich are allowed to get richer. I had read about Sam-Cam's dad making in excess of £400k per annum thanks to the wind farms on his land. Didn't know about Clegg's wife though - sadly, it did not surprise me that both the PM and Deputy would somehow benefit from these monstrosities!
Galad: spot on!!!
There is an old saying "the river runs to the sea" never has it been so true!!

24 November, 2011 09:20  
Anonymous Galadriel said...

Martini – I am sure if the people of this country knew how much wind farms where going to cost them as individuals they would be up in arms. Britain is sitting on a massive supply of shale gas. The government should be investing in that. It is a gold mine for the UK!
Scooby – how did the meeting go? I really wanted to attend but work commitments meant I couldn’t make it. Of course I would have been trying to figure out who you where!!

25 November, 2011 06:27  
Anonymous Songsmith said...

Oh Non, please return, there is so much going on, and nowhere to vent our feelings. The Blog has become the forum for so many topics.
I truly miss everyone.

26 November, 2011 01:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If stories from USA of methods used for shale gas extraction are to be believed be careful what you wish for. A wind farm landscape might seem idyllic!

26 November, 2011 15:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't want wind turbines please sign this on line petition and send it to anyone else you think would be interested.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22958

28 November, 2011 05:51  
Anonymous Martini said...

just clicked on to the e-petition against windfarms - don't seem to be many signatories on it. I'm really surprised how few! the one I viewed was http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22958

Over to you?

28 November, 2011 08:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BACK TO RUTHIN - this is a press release issued by Denbighshire County Council - should attract a few comments - MOELHUAL

Ruthin gets ready to impress in town evaluation


A team of mystery shoppers and city assessors will be heading to Ruthin in Denbighshire next week to rate the town’s shopping experience.


The Location Model designed by Skillsmart Retail, the Sector Skills Council for Retail, is being used to assess how well Ruthin performs in a number of different areas, from car parking to town centre cleanliness.


The project is being funded by Denbighshire County Council to gain an overview of the shopping in the area and how it can be improved to support local retailers and fulfil customer demands.


As part of the project, Ruthin town centre will be audited. This will focus on how easy it is for a stranger to shop in the town - even the smallest of details will be judged such as how easy it is for shoppers to cross roads. The auditor will also assess the location of basic landmarks including the Post Office and library.


Thirty independent retailers in the town will be mystery shopped as part of the research. Trained market research professionals will visit each participating independent shop twice to judge how well they are performing in areas such as customer service, product knowledge and window display.


As well as this, 100 shoppers in the town centre will be interviewed to find out how satisfied or dissatisfied they are with the town and any improvements they would like to see.


Michelle Rendell, Business Growth Officer from Denbighshire County Council said: “The Location Model is a great way for us to find out about shoppers’ experiences. Ruthin is a beautiful town, with many great independent retailers, which are enjoyed by residents and visitors. We want to support these retailers and help them flourish, especially in these difficult times.


“Independent retailers rarely get the opportunity for comprehensive feedback on their businesses. The mystery shopping survey will help our retailers to provide the standard of service that will encourage customers to return to shop again and again.”


(CANNOT USE FULL PRESS RELEASE - TOO LONG!)

29 November, 2011 07:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the rest of the press release - MOELHUAL

The Location Model has already been successfully used in more than 80 locations in Great Britain, from Aberdeen to Newport.


Anne Seaman, Chief Executive of Skillsmart Retail said: “This is a great opportunity for the independent retailers to get some unbiased feedback on their service and give the town’s leaders and businesses up-to-date information about the town to help them plan how to develop and promote the area in the future.


“Once the Location Model results are announced, there will be numerous opportunities for retailers to take advantage of training, to ensure the improvements identified can be made.”


This Monday the National Skills Academy for Retail launched in Wales, providing

retailers across the country access to retail training. All retailers that take part in the research will be offered further advice and support on training.

Full results from the will be revealed at a special ceremony onTuesday 7 February 2012 at Ruthin Castle.


ENDS


For more information contact Olivia White, Press and PR Officer for Skillsmart Retail, on 020 7462 5505 or at olivia.white@skillsmartretail.com


NOTES TO EDITORS


Skillsmart Retail and the National Skills Academy for Retail

Skillsmart Retail is the Sector Skills Council for Retail. It represents and works with retailers of all sizes to drive excellence in retail skills. The National Skills Academy for Retail is a wholly owned subsidiary of Skillsmart Retail, which delivers advice and training solutions directly to retailers, their employees and those seeking to work in the sector, through its network of skills shops based throughout the UK.


Skillsmart Retail and the National Skills Academy for Retail work to:
· Act as a catalyst to increase investment in skills to improve productivity and profitability of retail
· Set industry-wide standards for retail skills and career paths to enhance the reputation of retail careers
· Deliver products and services which are fit for purpose and accessible to all
· Operate a sustainable business that promotes continuous professional development in retail


www.skillsmartretail.com and www.nsaforretail.com

29 November, 2011 08:33  
Anonymous popeyesu2 said...

hi from popeyes u will be sadly missed x

30 November, 2011 00:24  
Anonymous Scooby Doo said...

Non.
I think your time has come to either shut this site down or carry on as all you will get now are comments about day to day life which is what the Ruthin Blog should be about.
I hope you make the right decision for yourself & also for the people of the town.
I truly believe the town needs you to carry on as you left off.

Be very careful in your decision as at the end of the day it must be about you.

Take care.

30 November, 2011 19:46  
Anonymous faeriepirates said...

How weird is that,or are we all under surveillance? Ref photograph of purple shop. Once again thanks to everyone who has signed the shop petition and also for the wonderful poem.For the people who expressed utter disbelieve in the whole sad reflection of the few people who actually complained in the first place.Faerie Pirates

30 November, 2011 20:58  
Anonymous Juan said...

What does this paragraph mean?

"I think your time has come to either shut this site down or carry on as all you will get now are comments about day to day life which is what the Ruthin Blog should be about"

30 November, 2011 22:42  
Anonymous Non Liquet said...

An anonymous commenter placed a comment here today, saying

"I wonder what Non would have thought about the mystery shoppers which are going to descend on ruthin this week and tell us what's wrong with our town. "

Well, the good people who are about to undertake this survey would have done well to read the content of and comments attached to this blog!

05 December, 2011 21:50  
Anonymous gina tonick said...

During the evening of the Lantern Parade, the one man "mystery shopper" they had here was about to knock off, and I accosted him. He was the only one placed in town, and had been told by the PR company to remain on the Square from 9.00am till 5.00 pm. I was his tenth interviwee that day. His views on Ruthin Square were pretty desperate. Lack of footfall; the Square being deserted till 10:30 and dying off after 2.00. Many of the questions were based on our perception of DCC and their contribution to town; as well as the shopping experience of residents. I could truthfully answer that my experiences were pretty grotty in town - NOT IN ALL SHOPS though; and that I had a very low opinion of DCC. I told him twice to read this blog - and even wrote the Rhuthun/Ruthin whatsit for him. Good bloke - the urchins would have taken to him.

05 December, 2011 23:28  
Anonymous Lilo Lill said...

Find a shopper ? Ha ! I remember 2 years ago the DCC again did a similar survey to find a tourist ! (Ruthin being designated a tourist town ? ) two young ladies where despatched to interview one hundred people and given 10 days to complete, it took them the whole 7 weeks of the school holidays at least they had a bit odf student overtime. They should have simply asked a local or two or visited this blog. The lantern Procession was good wasnt it,Gina and for allowing your famous urchins into the procession, very illuminating ! I bought you a pint but you failed to turn up for our secret rendevous.

The current ESA researcher you chatted to was also desperate to get to 100 by the end of this week as he wants to go home, having to date approx 42 to go and has finally moved to where the populous are to be found - outside tesco bus stop.

07 December, 2011 14:09  
Anonymous Songsmith said...

Dont know if theres anyone out there, but Merry Xmas to you all.

23 December, 2011 07:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

57 plus one
there are people out there
seasons greetings
David

24 December, 2011 01:04  
Anonymous christanzaro said...

Dear songsmith and others. i'm still here hoping that this blog re-boots. Anyway Happy Christmas to you and everyone else. I seriously believe with the happenings in the world blogs such as this are even more relevant now as communication devices than before. Lets keep our collective fingers crossed.

24 December, 2011 11:35  
Anonymous Galadriel said...

Happy Christmas Guys! xxx

25 December, 2011 11:10  
Anonymous Pearly said...

Happy Christmas Ruthin would-be bloggers :-(

26 December, 2011 00:35  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still check here occassionallt hoping that it will have restarted, anyway Seasons Greetings and a Happy New Year

27 December, 2011 01:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy New Year to all from another still signing in hoping Non will make a resolution. (Please at least aa occasional one-line refresher so that we don't have to keepscrolling through all these postings!)

30 December, 2011 16:31  
Anonymous Galadriel said...

Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbours, and let each New Year find you a better man.

01 January, 2012 07:49  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is Wetherspoons opening?

12 January, 2012 11:20  
Anonymous Non Liquet said...

My understanding is that Wetherspoon's will open on 31st January.

14 January, 2012 10:00  
Anonymous Pearly said...

Yes - see Wetherspoons website for confirmation.

14 January, 2012 16:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you are still there Non - we are all still hoping!

15 January, 2012 20:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Non liquet
and a happy new year to you whoever you are
David

17 January, 2012 22:31  
Anonymous Geraint Woolford said...

I hope Non does not mind, but I have set up a facebook group called Fans of the old Ruthin Blog.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/364098016950604/
Please join us and hopefully we can have some banter on there as we did here. We may not have the anonymity there, but I dont think that matters too much.
I will obviously close the group should this blog be resurrected to its former glory.

22 January, 2012 08:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to see that blog followers have a new platform - Friends of the old Ruthin Blog - pending Non's return! See Facebook.

22 January, 2012 10:34  

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